The Nomadic Network has had me on in the past months to talk about the ins and out of moving to France, particularly from non-EU countries. Tomorrow will be the final webinar in a three episode run. It’s free and you can ask whatever question you might have about coming to this beautiful country. If you’d like to watch parts 1 and 2 you can find them on the Nomadic Matt Patreon. I look forward to answering your questions as best I can!
The webinar I did a couple weeks ago had over 130 attendees and as such there were a number of questions I didn’t have time to answer. I’m going to tackle those and some new ones this week on an AMA (ask me anything) session hosted by the Nomadic Network. It’s free to attend and I look forward to answering your questions!
I saw her place the green and white paper on top of my file. It was the paper used to print a recipisse (the temporary document one uses for identification while waiting to get a permanent identity card). Externally I remained stoic. Internally my jaw dropped and I wanted to shout out. That enormous dossier that I had handed over 15 minutes earlier had worked. Not only had I successfully jumped the track from the hamster-wheel of visitorhood to the track to an EU and French citizenship, but this had been the shortest prefecture visit since I moved to France in 2013. From start to finish it had been thirty minutes. I had felt supremely confident in my dossier – but this was France, after all. There could always be something objectionable.
Still dumbstruck, I silently handed over my photos. As the big printer hummed, she clipped out one of them, handed the rest back to me, then dutifully affixed it to my recipisse. She then gave it all the stamps and signatures it needed after I had verified all the information and signed it myself.
Today is eight days after I successfully changed to a Profession Liberale visa. As long as I earn a certain income over the next five years and pay the requisite taxes, I’ll be eligible to apply for French citizenship (note: that does not mean I’ll get it). I’m officially allowed to work in France, now. I had to go to URSSAF yesterday to do more paperwork, and I need to come back in 90 days to give the prefecture that paperwork, but that’s literally paper pushing, rather than the complex compilation of a dossier.
Could I have taken this path immediately in 2013 instead of taking the visitor route? Yes. Indeed, if there are any of you out there interested in taking this path, I can help consult you through this process as someone who has successfully completed it and has a winning template (and if you live in Paris I’ll throw in a lunch, too). For more information, email me.
And yet, the answer for me is also No. I could not have taken this route myself, knowing as little as I did about France in 2013. I didn’t even know what I didn’t know, and my plans and ideas about my time in France were so inchoate when I landed here. Yes, eight days ago I took a bulletproof dossier to the Prefecture…but I knew it was bulletproof because of my last two visits there and what I had learned about the French and their expectations in the last three years.
It’s also been marvelous to hear from people I’ve met because of this blog – not just those who needed help regarding the visitor visa but those who have started to meet with me to strategize about what I’ve just successfully done: a transition to the citizenship route. A few of their testimonials are here.
Thanks for continuing this journey with me. Last Thursday was the end of the beginning.
The image is the flag of the Bourbon Restoration. It’s as good a time as any to admit that I’m an unabashed royalist.
It’s been a while since I’ve done one of these, but it’s often helpful for me to share some of these answers to questions I get in email so that others who are also wondering might have their questions answered as well.
How does adding passport pages to my (US) passport or renewal of it affect my visa?
Well, this is a two-parter. As of December 31st, 2015, the US Embassy in France is no longer adding pages to your passport. What that means (and I confirmed this in person at the Embassy) is that you will have to apply for an early renewal of your passport, as US citizens living abroad are not permitted to mail their passport back to the US for pages to be added there. For my battle-worn blue book, that renewal ends up being roughly 3 years early. But given that I’m down to room for exactly 5 more stamps, it’ll have to do, especially since I have a lot of travel later this year.
As to how it affects your visa: it doesn’t. If you’re in your first year of your long-term stay visa, your carte de sejour exists in the form of the sticker that OFII put in your passport roughly 90 days after you arrived during your follow-up visit. If you add pages/renew your passport you will get your cancelled passport back and still show that sticker, if you need to.
If you’re in your second year and beyond, you will be issued an actual carte de sejour after your renewal, which effectively functions both as your ID and your visa. Those stickers in your passport from years ago are then like the rest of the stamps in your passport – memories – but nothing legally important.
You said recently that you had to file taxes? How did that go?
Great question! Funnily enough, despite sending them a properly filled-out French tax return appropriate for a foreign filer, in which I indicated that my income had not been derived from French companies, they still sent me a bill for 1781 euros. After some laughter with my accountant and attorney, an email was dispatched to the relevant department:
réf de l’avis:15 75 XXXXXXX XX
Nº fiscal déclarant: 30 25 XXX XXX XXX X
Je reçois cet avis d’imposition dont je conteste le fondement. En effet, l’assiette de la CSG et de la CRDS est l’ensemble des revenus français quelque soit leur nature et montant.
La totalité des revenus composant l’assiette de cette imposition a été d’origine américaine, perçue et imposée aux USA conformément au traité fiscal franco-américain.
En conséquence, de par la définition même de cette double imposition CSG – CRDS, l’assiette de cette imposition ici présente est non conforme. Je demande donc son annulation immédiate et sans condition.
The next day, which is essentially light speed by French standards, had this response in my inbox:
Votre demande a bien été prise en compte. Vous allez bientôt recevoir un avis de dégrèvement.
Translation: You’re right. You don’t owe any money.
Stephen: Gee, thanks. 🙂
So as I was getting ready to go back to the States in December I started corresponding with a Lauren L. who had some visa questions for me which originated from this article. Here were her questions:
– I have an appointment for the long stay visitor visa in New York in three weeks and I’m noticing differences in the requirements between the NY and Chicago consulates. Is this normal? NY seems to require fewer documents and doesn’t mention needing notarized statements or forms for my application.
This is totally possible. There isn’t a uniformity of observing standards, even though there are universal standards. If there are fewer documents, that’s great. If you feel you need backup, there’s nothing wrong with having that with you as well. Just don’t give stuff you’re not asked for.
– I’m only 24 and am coming to join my French boyfriend, travel around Europe, and improve my French. Is this going to be a red flag if I write this in my personal statement as I am still young? I worry they will have a hard time believing I won’t be working or trying to find work.
No I think this is fine. Remember you are applying as a visitor so they don’t necessarily expect you to be looking for a job. Remember that it’s illegal for visitors to even think about getting a job so they take you at your word – that you are “visiting,” which dovetails into your last question…
– My “means of income” will be coming from my parents, who are submitting three months of their bank statements along with letters stating their intent to fully support me financially while I am abroad. Is this enough proof?
This should be fine. Those of us not in such a situation will generally want the funds to be in our own name, but I think for you this will work.
Lauren was actually visiting Paris in December but we weren’t able to meet before my vacation stateside. I told her by email that based on what she told me she should be fine but here are the specific answers for anyone else who has the same concerns. (And happy ending: Lauren got it!)
When I was already stateside I got this tweet.
— Lucy Ainsworth (@ozone263) December 13, 2014
I wrote her back and come to find out that she had some of her own visa travails and some of my articles helped out. Part of why I wrote some of these articles was precisely to help others as I found the content out there not the most helpful or up to date. It’s really neat to see some of those exact people thanking you for the advice.
Photo courtesy of m43photos, via creative commons.